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Ceros X
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 08:37:00 -
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jade is a useless moron with delusions of grandeur get him off my council
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Ceros X
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 11:35:00 -
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The institution of a vote of no confidence in the position of chairperson is integral to the ability of this body to function democratically.
This issue needs to be on the agenda, as well as formalizing the powers of the chairperson to control the meeting. Even deferrence to an existing set of procedures (such as the procedures of the British Parliament) would be desireable.
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Ceros X
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 11:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Waterfowl Democracy
So how will you be voting on this issue when it comes up in the next meeting Jade?
If it doesn't come up at the next meeting I'd imagine that your position will only become more untenable
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In the case of clear attempts to violate the CSM processes laid out by CCP or obvious mental illnesses causing total breaks with reality, the CSM should be able to call for a vote of no confidence in their Chairman. Like in Hamlet. Express support or discuss criticism of this idea here, thank you.
Well if LaVista or Bane wish to allege that that I've violated CSM processes or suffer from obvious mental illnesses then I'm going to vote against obviously. (unless of cause they can show precisely how I've violated those processes or maybe produce a certificate of mental illness). I guess either possibility is as likely.
The motion doesn't call for a vote of no confidence in you. It calls for the institution of a procedure whereby a vote of no confidence in the chairperson can be called and passed, and what occurs once this has happened.
Your behaviour has merely highlighted the necessity of such a formal procedure. Whether it is ever called to depose you is up to your fellow councillors.
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Ceros X
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
Originally by: Jade Constantine
The lesson learned from that last meeting is for the Chair to be firmer, sooner, and take a much more vigorous hand in preventing unrecognized interruptions from the representatives LaVista.
If you think being even more authoritarian than you were in the last meeting is really going to help then 
The meeting was a FIASCO precisely because you pulled your Dictatorial routine - as the chat logs clearly demonstrate. The meeting did go on a long time - but tbh the majority of this was your fault for reopening debate on two issues which had already been discussed.
As I said in my mail to CSM members your points should either have been addressed at the time the topic was debated or held over and put on the agenda of the next meeting. To imply that the meeting dragged on purely because of the disruption of other CSM members is ridiculous.
The more you tighten your grip on a fistful of sand - the more of that sand slips through your fingers. Use commonsense and accept (occasionally) when you are wrong and things will go a whole lot easier for us all.
TBH if someone is being disruptive it should be up to the CSM body as a whole to highlight that and THEN the Chair can take appropriate action.
As it was I don't feel that Inanna was being particularly disruptive and from my perspective you muted her more because she dared to call you out on your 'editorialising' than for any real practical reason.
You may disagree with my thinking but people can read the chat log and make up their own minds!
Hardin, if you want to help curb this excessive abuse of the "powers" of the Chair - invented or not - please support my motion to include formalizing said powers and introducing the ability for the council to call a vote of no confidence in the chairperson.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=792776
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